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Chris's avatar

Excellent piece. I will be quoting the line “turns out to be just another dickhead, being led around by the head of his dick” -with attribution- in future conversations.

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Anonymous Dude's avatar

"To realize that he only ever saw her as a pair of tits doesn't just change the way she feels about him; it changes how she feels about herself."

There seems to be the stereotype that physical attraction means admiration of other factors doesn't also exist; in fact they probably coexist in most successful relationships.

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Justin Ordoñez's avatar

People who are ashamed of their sexuality can’t take responsibility for it. They project their self-disgust onto the person who admires them. That’s why they are so certain what the other person is thinking/feeling, because it’s really their own thoughts/feelings.

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Paul Izzo's avatar

Several of the educated, adult women involved said that heavy drinking was involved. They made it sound that he was plying them with drink. Why didn't that set off an alarm? Why didn't they push the stop button? Not for nothing people who get drunk often forget what they did the next day. These women's stories sound more like a day after regret than a #METOO.

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Emojay's avatar

Who the hell is Wesley Lowery? Would have been good to start off with that.

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OGRE's avatar
Jun 7Edited

Dude just sounds like a douche.

He was never truly concerned with what people "thought" he was and he was just trolling for some ass. What's that 90s song? "He says all the right things at exactly the right time, but he means nothing to you and you don't know why..."

Ding ding! I know why -- because he's fake!

Yes it's really that simple.

I think it's funny/unfortunate that so many women are strung along by douche bags.

But there's a caveat, women sometimes like D-Bags because they can leave them with no regrets.

I can blow this wide open, here's just a taste.

I'll just say that there's plenty of women that were more attracted to me -- because I was married -- and not interested.

Sounds backwards, but it's not.

These were women much younger than me 20 or so years. I'm early 40s.

The strange thing was when I asked them questions. Such as, "Where do you see this going?" They didn't have an answer.

That's what's wrong with the dude you're describing! There is only step one (having sex) there is no step two?!

See where I'm going?

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Lee Macdonald's avatar

I don’t know who either of these people are, but I’m a subscriber to this obscure little Substack for just this sort of stream of consciousness rant.

The subject matter couldn’t interest me less, and I am unsure of the foundation of “Elle” as a wonderful person.

I strongly disagree with the ending sentence “There is very little exciting or interesting about a disappointing man.” I myself continuously disappoint my wife, family, coworkers, and I would say that makes me infinitely more interesting.

Isn’t that what Legally Blonde was trying to say? The perfect appearance on the surface isn’t where the value lies. My eyes are in here.

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Gordon Shriver's avatar

"To realize that he only ever saw her as a pair of tits doesn't just change the way she feels about him; it changes how she feels about herself."

Exactly. This gets lost in all the nonsense of he said/she said and innocent until proven guilty. Even the rare conviction can't restore the loss of trust.

From the CJR article:

“He was the golden boy, held up on this pedestal,” Moise said. She deeply felt his importance to journalism, to American culture, to so much. “He was Mr. BLM.” When these women confronted Lowery about his actions, he would be nice, and apologetic.

The classic MO of losers, plead with victims to keep quiet because speaking out would hurt the cause. Just last month the WSJ reported that, Karim Khan, the ICC's now-ex Chief Prosecutor, tried it with the woman he repeatedly raped, failed, and issued arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Galant as a cover-up when she reported him.

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Shockwell's avatar

Title got me thinking about the left-wing activists and journalists who for some reason exclusively communicate on social media in nocaps (except of course for "Black"). As a quick Google search demonstrates, Wesley Lowery is, naturally, one of those people. What's the deal with that?

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Mikael Covey's avatar

The bad boy or girl has in common - us. We create an ideal in our minds of what the perfect is, reflecting back their worthiness to have us, or our unworthiness to have them. When later we find out they were common all along, that too kinda reflects back on us.

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Freddy Smidlap's avatar

see mel tucker.

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Jim Treacher's avatar

I knew he was a fraud from the moment he got arrested at McDonald's.

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JohnMcG's avatar

This makes me consider again the ethics of the shitty media men list.

The verdict (in one case literal) is that it was an overreach, as some men had found themselves fired or blacklisted for behavior that either wasn't true or was well short of either criminal or harassment.

But reading this, I wonder if that itself is was an overreach. Maybe Aziz Ansari shouldn't be thrown in jail or lose his ability to work, but I wouldn't want my sisters or daughters to date someone like him, and I would appreciate someone who gave them a heads-up beforehand. Did it need to be a published article? Probably not.

I guess the problem is that the tools we have available don't provide clear differences between felonies and misdemeanors. Either someone's a predator or perfectly fine.

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Kat Rosenfield's avatar

Oh no, I think "published article" (or in the case of the SMM thing, "anonymously sourced public list") is an extremely bright line. The usefulness of the whisper network stemmed from the fact that the information on it was conveyed in *literal whispers*, i.e. intimately and interpersonally; airing someone's dirty laundry on the public internet is the opposite of whispering and I think it's absolutely evil.

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Brian Jones's avatar

Kat 4 Prez

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Angie Schmitt🚶‍♀️'s avatar

Yikes Cleveland (where I live) guy. Always seemed to have a sterling reputation

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